Just a question
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I am a property owner and pay my taxes which goes to the school system. I will admit I have been trying to find out how Senator Obama plans on paying for the additional teachers he is telling America he is going to employ.
My question is simple, where is the money going to come from in hiring these teachers and how is the local school boards going to be involved in this hiring? Does this mean my property taxes will go up?
My question is simple, where is the money going to come from in hiring these teachers and how is the local school boards going to be involved in this hiring? Does this mean my property taxes will go up?








I think most Democrats wouldn't mind making some sacrifices to make sure all kids have a good shot at a world calls education.
Property taxes are not federal taxes...you know that.
You are telling me that I must pay higher taxes to hire more teachers? Taxes on top of homes that are in foreclosure that county and state governments are not getting money from now in the first place?
Bill Clinton managed to put a whole lot of cops on the streets when local taxes fund polics departments.
As I said, most Democrats would scarifice a little to insure every child receives a good education. Lastly, wait until January 20th for more specifics.
Last thing......if we don't make education a priority, we will not recognize this country in the future. We will not be a world leader for sure.
I feel it is my obligation to try.
Wouldn't a rich area compensate for a poor area? It's called Robin Hood. Most rural areas are extremely poor - hence, they are rural. People don't live there to get ahead. They live there to enjoy what is most important - LIFE. Just enough to put a shelter over their heads and food on the table.
How about this for a topic... if people wouldn't take so much of a handout, then there would be enough for education.
Just something to chew on!
NO...I don't it is a fair system and we've had this debate here before.
Just my opinion. And no...you don't have to like it.
More than likely, all the money in the world can't fix a rotten system. And there are examples of that EVERYWHERE.
Other budget spending besides mandatory spending is, discretionary spending and appropriations. We no longer have money for discretionary or appropriations (military once more). People aren't taking hand-outs, not sure why people call it that, Food Stamps is funded by farmers of America and Health & Welfare is paid back, mandatory now, by locating fathers and attaching wages. My ex-husband owed me over $60,000 and finally found him, meanwhile I used welfare system and had to pay them back. I used $21,000 and they took ALL Of the $60,000 plus. I couldn't fight them, I was too busy in college and trying to feed my 3 children. In the end, the government made money off of my divorce, they got paid back three times the amount! Yeah, that's ignorant alright. Chew on that.
They raised my property value way up! And even disputing it - they just lowered the higher value a little. Thus increases in school, city and county taxes - just not as much as it would have been if the State has not given a little cut!
There are also properties in this City that are carried in the low millions and listed in the "For Sale" real estate section for $5 to $10 million dollars.
There is a piece of property downtown that has been carried on the property tax books for 7.5 million for ever and the City has agreed to buy it for 40.5 million dollars to build a city hotel.
No Kidding.
And what shape is the SchoolDistrict in. They hired 800 new teachers for the year - then came up with an 84 million dollar shortfall and fired lots of them after school started. Then they rehired 60 back!
Obama had nothing to do with this. Look to your local School District for accountability!
You're mixing apples and oranges in your rant.
City budgets get their money from federal government appropriations and lids and parking tickets. lol.
The reason your school district most likely fired and rehired was, they needed the teachers, so they hired, their budget to meet the cost, so they HAD to fire however many (?), then they ran an emergency budget through the School Board and then submitted it to the County Assessors office to adjust property taxes and ran the figures, so they could rehire, but could only afford the 64 out of how ever many they fired; and submitted for emergency funding from the government.
There are different parts of a budget: mandatory spending, discretionary spending and appropriations. We have NO money for anything but mandatory now; and in that mandatory spending, it's only two things: social security and military spending. We're going to have to cut it somewhere.
We get our budget from taxation. If we roll back the taxes on wealthy to former Clinton era, we can afford to cut middle class and STILL make taxes to apply to mandatory budget. The discretionary spending is all the good, bad and ugly earmarks and more. Appropriations is just another military budget line. Most our taxes are spent on military, so I've always said that if we ended this war, our economy would rejuvenate; continuing the war is killing our economy and wasting our resources.
And when you can tell me that the Federal Government pays for teachers and their retirement will be the day pigs fly. I can prove to you on my property taxes who supports the school system here in IL.
We could elect McCain and make sure nothing is done about education. But we won't...thank God.
But there will be more money if we're stop spending billions in Iraq.
And you also know that levi's are voted on for schools and are met with opposition because cheap, 'all about me' people aren't willing to invest in education. And that's a shame.
Do you own property? Do you pay tax dollars? The price of your homes in Chicago area should be giving you a stellar education for all students. Why not? I'm serious here. My little corner of the world should not pay any more taxes for people living in an urban area. Maybe the urban people should pay for their own, ever think of that?
The problem people don't get is, there's a certain amount that comes into a budget, then it's divided up, like a pie, the greatest portion goes to military and social security, it's under mandatory spending. Then after that comes discretionary spending, it's flexible, because programs come and go (for instance No Child Left Behind and GWB had another line in the budget, can't recall that name at the moment, but that will be ended when Barack gets in...so that money would be free to go elsewhere). The budget is going to be gone over, line, by line. Whether it's McCain or Barack they have to do this, democrats use more of the budget for infrastructure, innovation and education, while republicans dole it out for industry, to make the wealthy even more wealthy (hoping it will trickle down effect), but it hasn't worked.
#1 - If you own property or buy stuff in your state and pay sales tax, you pay for schools.
#2 - Republicans pay as much taxes as Democrats.
#3 - Since schools are state driven (even you have stated) then why even make a stupid comment about McCain?
May I ask, do you own property?
I am not stirring the pot, I am wanting to know. I have read his site and cannot find an answer to my question. I would think many property owners would question this. It is not unfair to ask, nor is it unfair to expect an intelligent answer.
Bottom line is I am a single person and according to the calculator of his tax saving, I will get less than $1000. But, I also own property and how much of that tax savings is going to be paid to what with my property taxes going up?
Is there a problem with a registered Democrat asking a question on a Democratic site that I have helped pay for over the years?
Other taxes may go up for education programs that are funded at the federal level.
I just reread (twice) what she wrote and it seems like a simple question to me. Do you know how to read or does anything coming from someone who may not be sold on the same bill of goods you are immediately suspect as a hater?
I have to admit, your answer alone would turn me off "wait until January for the answer". Honestly, if you can't answer correctly you are only hurting the cause.
I think you are wrong. If Mel had proof that:
#1 - Obama is not pandering.
#2 - Obama hasn't gone back on his word several times. Especially in Illinois.
#3 - He had a viable plan AND one that would pass muster in Congress (like the "no taxes for $250K and under" pandering).
I think she would be the FIRST on Obama's bandwagon.
Really...you have no idea.
Not wasting my time on this particular blog anymore.
Mel would never support Obama and I know because I read her blogs on another site.
I also see that 1st Amendment Rights are just folly here. So good to know!
I'm not clueless to your childish games. I don't see where a dumb answer to a very reasonable question is very adult like.
Run if you want. This does get old quick!
You are the weakest link!
be my guest.
What happened to change - meaning real answers to real questions?
Nothing's changed - ignorance rules. It's another 4 or 8 years of nothing.
Accountability is the answer and we certainly have none in the Dallas School District.
Most pay out of their own pocket for little "bonuses" for their kids.
Much less administration and wasteful spending and more teachers!
It is all about accountability.
Read this and it may turn on a light bulb:
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There is a difference between state budgets and federal. States get it from taxes (property and sales), government gets it from income taxes.
On Education. Our Kids no longer compete on the world level.
With that said we are educating kids for jobs that are not hear but that is another debate.
One thing I have always said and I say this about my kids or anyone's kids, We have a choice, We can either Educate them or Support them.
That is the real debate. Every kid that does not get a good education will cost more to support and be a drain on our country.
If every state were forced to educate their youth with only the money generated by property taxes, all children would be in one room schools, using chalk boards to learn how to cipher.
The federal government sends $58 Billion dollars to the states for education. It needs to be more. It will be more, much more under Obama. Mel, if your taxes go up, too damn bad. We owe it to our children to educate them. In a country as rich as ours, education and healthcare should be a birthright.
They have no ideas, they know Obama will win and they are attemeting to make us as miserable as they are.
Stupid is, as stupid does.
If the shoe fits...
Look who's calling the kettle black...
What part of Ft. Worth do you live in? Because when we were under the Robin Hood plan, my county paid the most for poor schools in Texas. Sure, I want to pay my part. But I expect EVERYONE to pay SOMETHING. That doesn't happen when property taxes are the main source of revenue for schools.
#1 - You are protecting someone who doesn't pay property taxes.
#2 - You are calling people names for asking an extremely simple question.
#3 - You didn't even offer an answer.
Why waste the time. Or do you have no life?
Compared to McCain, Obama will spend trillions less on unnecessary war.
Simple question for you:
Is this really the biggest question you have before the election?
It is way down on my list of priorities. Any amount that would be spent on new teachers would pay for itself in the long run anyway.
Most of us work very hard for what we have and can hardly pay for anyone else, much less everyone else.
If you can't answer a simple question with a plan, then don't waste our time.
So, those that rent can't complain too much about their schools.
Had we not been punked and duped a second time by idiots in Ohio, then we wouldn't have the deficit we do, and we could start rebuilding our OWN infrastructure (including funding our own broken down schools).
He's also stated that if students put in community service work, he'll knock off tuition, so it's meant for college, not high school. Listening sometimes offer clues.